transfer HDD from non bootable XP to good Vista

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:44:10 -0700 (PDT), smlunatick
wrote:

> On Oct 15, 6:22 pm, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:13:26 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:
> > > Innews:0D0DFC5D-2697-42D2-A9EE-BDB3EDBEC151.Rmv@microsoft.com,
> > > meamjw typed on Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:06:43 -0700:
> > > > I have two computers; one with Home XP that will not boot. Other is
> > > > Vista and works fine. The XP machnine has two hard drives and I would
> > > > like to put the one containing Windows into the Vista machnine so I
> > > > can copy everthing except Windows XP to the Vista machines HDD. Would
> > > > I encounter any problems with that? Or perhaps there is a way to
> > > > leave the drive in place and just hook a cable from the dead machine
> > > > to the healthy one? They are only three feet apart. The XP machine
> > > > uses IDE cables. Have never had the Vista apart, so don't know what
> > > > it uses.
> > > > Thanks for any advice about keeping my data.
> > > > --
> > > > meamjw
> >
> > > The easiest way is to buy an USB PATA enclosure. They can be had for 20
> > > bucks or less.
> >
> > You took the words out of my mouth. I completely agree.
> >
> > Let me add that mounting the drive in the enclosure is extremely easy
> > and will take no longer than five minutes, even for someone who is all
> > thumbs.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
> I would also add the using a USB enclosure would possibly be "safer"
> than attempting to place the XP drive onto an internal connection.
> With two bootable drives inside the PC, both would attempt to start
> "their" installed version.


Not correct. The BIOS knows which to boot from.
 >> Stay informed about: transfer HDD from non bootable XP to good Vista 

In news:0D0DFC5D-2697-42D2-A9EE-BDB3EDBEC151.cut@microsoft.com,
meamjw typed on Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:06:43 -0700:
> I have two computers; one with Home XP that will not boot. Other is
> Vista and works fine. The XP machnine has two hard drives and I would
> like to put the one containing Windows into the Vista machnine so I
> can copy everthing except Windows XP to the Vista machines HDD. Would
> I encounter any problems with that? Or perhaps there is a way to
> leave the drive in place and just hook a cable from the dead machine
> to the healthy one? They are only three feet apart. The XP machine
> uses IDE cables. Have never had the Vista apart, so don't know what
> it uses.
> Thanks for any advice about keeping my data.
> --
> meamjw

The easiest way is to buy an USB PATA enclosure. They can be had for 20
bucks or less.
 >> Stay informed about: transfer HDD from non bootable XP to good Vista 

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:13:26 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

> In news:0D0DFC5D-2697-42D2-A9EE-BDB3EDBEC151.cut@microsoft.com,
> meamjw typed on Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:06:43 -0700:
> > I have two computers; one with Home XP that will not boot. Other is
> > Vista and works fine. The XP machnine has two hard drives and I would
> > like to put the one containing Windows into the Vista machnine so I
> > can copy everthing except Windows XP to the Vista machines HDD. Would
> > I encounter any problems with that? Or perhaps there is a way to
> > leave the drive in place and just hook a cable from the dead machine
> > to the healthy one? They are only three feet apart. The XP machine
> > uses IDE cables. Have never had the Vista apart, so don't know what
> > it uses.
> > Thanks for any advice about keeping my data.
> > --
> > meamjw
>
> The easiest way is to buy an USB PATA enclosure. They can be had for 20
> bucks or less.


You took the words out of my mouth. I completely agree.

Let me add that mounting the drive in the enclosure is extremely easy
and will take no longer than five minutes, even for someone who is all
thumbs.
 >> Stay informed about: transfer HDD from non bootable XP to good Vista 

as long as you change the jumpers on the drive to secondary, it should work
fine.
lust leave the primary drive in the working machine, and install the non
working pc drive on the secondary position on the drive cable with the
jumpers set to secondary. or slave, depending on how it's labeled.

"meamjw" wrote:

> I have two computers; one with Home XP that will not boot. Other is Vista and
> works fine. The XP machnine has two hard drives and I would like to put the
> one containing Windows into the Vista machnine so I can copy everthing except
> Windows XP to the Vista machines HDD. Would I encounter any problems with
> that? Or perhaps there is a way to leave the drive in place and just hook a
> cable from the dead machine to the healthy one? They are only three feet
> apart. The XP machine uses IDE cables. Have never had the Vista apart, so
> don't know what it uses.
> Thanks for any advice about keeping my data.
> --
> meamjw
 >> Stay informed about: transfer HDD from non bootable XP to good Vista 

In news:58797A3B-6B11-45D9-B7E0-2B43A654AC0F.Rmv@microsoft.com,
sgopus typed on Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:56:01 -0700:
> as long as you change the jumpers on the drive to secondary, it
> should work fine.
> lust leave the primary drive in the working machine, and install the
> non working pc drive on the secondary position on the drive cable
> with the jumpers set to secondary. or slave, depending on how it's
> labeled.

Sounds like the Vista machine has SATA and the XP machine has PATA. If
true, then that idea won't work.
 >> Stay informed about: transfer HDD from non bootable XP to good Vista 

On 10/15/2009 12:01 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:44:10 -0700 (PDT), smlunatick
> wrote:
>
>> On Oct 15, 6:22 pm, "Ken Blake, MVP"
>> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:13:26 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:
>>>> Innews:0D0DFC5D-2697-42D2-A9EE-BDB3EDBEC151.cut@microsoft.com,
>>>> meamjw typed on Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:06:43 -0700:
>>>>> I have two computers; one with Home XP that will not boot. Other is
>>>>> Vista and works fine. The XP machnine has two hard drives and I would
>>>>> like to put the one containing Windows into the Vista machnine so I
>>>>> can copy everthing except Windows XP to the Vista machines HDD. Would
>>>>> I encounter any problems with that? Or perhaps there is a way to
>>>>> leave the drive in place and just hook a cable from the dead machine
>>>>> to the healthy one? They are only three feet apart. The XP machine
>>>>> uses IDE cables. Have never had the Vista apart, so don't know what
>>>>> it uses.
>>>>> Thanks for any advice about keeping my data.
>>>>> --
>>>>> meamjw
>>>> The easiest way is to buy an USB PATA enclosure. They can be had for 20
>>>> bucks or less.
>>> You took the words out of my mouth. I completely agree.
>>>
>>> Let me add that mounting the drive in the enclosure is extremely easy
>>> and will take no longer than five minutes, even for someone who is all
>>> thumbs.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>> I would also add the using a USB enclosure would possibly be "safer"
>> than attempting to place the XP drive onto an internal connection.
>> With two bootable drives inside the PC, both would attempt to start
>> "their" installed version.
>
>
> Not correct. The BIOS knows which to boot from.
>

Hi Ken,

That is not totally correct. If both drives jumpers are set to cable
select and the Vista drive is first on the cable then what you say is
correct.

Unfortunately most of the machines I have opened the drives are jumpered
as master. If you have 2 drives that are both jumpered as master, then
(with most of the machines I have repaired), the system does not
complete the POST since its not sure which drive is which. In the few
cases where the POST completed, the system simply sat at a blank
terminal screen.

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C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T

CSD Computer Services

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