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inkleput

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Since: Sep 8, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:46 pm
Post subject: Slow XP
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Different situation here. XP Pro SP2, 1 g memory, 1.7 ghz.

Speed has been fine until recently - getting as high as 11K b/s on
downloads. Basic operations are still OK, but after going from FireFox 2
to FireFox 3 and scurrying back as quickly as possible, I'm getting as low
as 1100 b/s or less. Coincidence?

I've gone through every cleanup process imaginable including registry.
I've always kept on top of viruses with AVG 8 Full in place now and others
applied occasionally (with no surprises).

Somebody PLEASE tell me where the hidden slowdown settings are!

JimL

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:06 am
Post subject: Re: Slow XP
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wrote in message

> Different situation here. XP Pro SP2, 1 g memory, 1.7 ghz.
>
> Speed has been fine until recently - getting as high as 11K b/s on
> downloads. Basic operations are still OK, but after going from FireFox 2
> to FireFox 3 and scurrying back as quickly as possible, I'm getting as low
> as 1100 b/s or less. Coincidence?
>
> I've gone through every cleanup process imaginable including registry.
> I've always kept on top of viruses with AVG 8 Full in place now and others
> applied occasionally (with no surprises).
>
> Somebody PLEASE tell me where the hidden slowdown settings are!
>
> JimL
>
> ---
> Obama: Solid gold or solid fertilizer?

Careful with those registry cleaners!

Is this only happening with Firefox, or with IE too?

I found AVG*8* slowed me down - though not to the same extent you're
finding. Nor did I like the component of it that kept dashing off to sites
and giving them safety ticks in Google search results. I ditched it for
Avast & Avira on my home PCs.

[Prepares to be flamed] You might want to close AVG *completely* (check
system tray, services, & processes in Task Manager) and then browse around /
download from a few *known safe* sites, to see if things have sped up. This
would, of course, be a temporary measure, and you should ensure virus
protection is reinstated at the earliest opportunity - preferably by
restarting your machine, to ensure that all components have started. Not
wanting to sound like I'm talking down to you, but a caveat I'd give anyone:
if you don't appreciate the danger from viruses or are at all unsure of your
ability to *safely* browse the web for a short period for this testing, then
please DON'T DO IT! Others will doubtless berate me for suggesting this -
but it's what I would try if it were me. (Not that it sounds likely that the
cause IS AVG, but this would test it.)

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inkleput

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:40 am
Post subject: Re: Slow XP
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Thanks, no. All I find there is telling you to _turn on_ FireFox -
peroid. Mine (Zone Alarm) does a popup asking for a setting upon first
running of any program. I don't see why that guy pointed to _turning on_
FireFox as a way to _speed up_ FireFox. Two totally different subjects.

"Touch Base" wrote in message

>Different situation here. XP Pro SP2, 1 g memory, 1.7 ghz.

>Speed has been fine until recently - getting as high as 11K b/s on
>downloads. Basic operations are still OK, but after going from FireFox 2
>to FireFox 3 and scurrying back as quickly as possible, I'm getting as
>low as 1100 b/s or less. Coincidence?

>I've gone through every cleanup process imaginable including registry.
>I've always kept on top of viruses with AVG 8 Full in place now and
>others applied occasionally (with no surprises).

>Somebody PLEASE tell me where the hidden slowdown settings are!

>JimL

>---
>Obama: Solid gold or solid fertilizer?




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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:21 pm
Post subject: Re: Slow XP
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"Olórin" wrote in message

>> Different situation here. XP Pro SP2, 1 g memory, 1.7 ghz.
>>
>> Speed has been fine until recently - getting as high as 11K b/s on
>> downloads. Basic operations are still OK, but after going from FireFox 2
>> to FireFox 3 and scurrying back as quickly as possible, I'm getting as low
>> as 1100 b/s or less. Coincidence?
>>
>> I've gone through every cleanup process imaginable including registry.
>> I've always kept on top of viruses with AVG 8 Full in place now and others
>> applied occasionally (with no surprises).
>>
>> Somebody PLEASE tell me where the hidden slowdown settings are!
>>
>> JimL
>>
>> ---
>> Obama: Solid gold or solid fertilizer?

>Careful with those registry cleaners!

So some say. I've used them for years and never had a problem. I suspect it would make a difference if the programmers were incompetent.

>Is this only happening with Firefox, or with IE too?

Hm, don't know. I never use !E except when XP forces it. And I may not even try it. I did the winsock reset doohicky suggested and it _appears_ to have put me back on track. The only problem now is that I will NEVER be able to remember where I stored that tip!

>I found AVG*8* slowed me down - though not to the same extent you're
>finding. Nor did I like the component of it that kept dashing off to sites
>and giving them safety ticks in Google search results. I ditched it for
>Avast & Avira on my home PCs.

I had the AVG 8 slowdown problem. Since my memory is apparently bobbing around in Dante's Seventh Ring I don't remember exactly what the fix was, but it was an addon that AVG 8 installed that was checking out web sites some way or other. I recall that it put little green me.. oops, little green icons all up and down a Google hit page. Disabling the addon fixed it. But I don't even have it now, because my temporary excursion into FF 3 trashed it. FF 3 seems to trash a LOT of things that stay trashed when you return to FF2.

>[Prepares to be flamed] You might want to close AVG *completely* (check
>system tray, services, & processes in Task Manager) and then browse around /
>download from a few *known safe* sites, to see if things have sped up. This
>would, of course, be a temporary measure, and you should ensure virus
>protection is reinstated at the earliest opportunity - preferably by
>restarting your machine, to ensure that all components have started. Not
>wanting to sound like I'm talking down to you, but a caveat I'd give anyone:
>if you don't appreciate the danger from viruses or are at all unsure of your
>ability to *safely* browse the web for a short period for this testing, then
>please DON'T DO IT! Others will doubtless berate me for suggesting this -
>but it's what I would try if it were me. (Not that it sounds likely that the
>cause IS AVG, but this would test it.)

No flame from here; I've had to do it before. But I would heavily underscore your caveat to be very careful about it. When I used the free version of AVG it didn't have a feature that checked incoming stuff (only checked after you already had it) and I got riddled with trojans during ONE SESSION on a bad site. Took me a week or more to clean it up.


JimL

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Touch Base

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Since: Sep 18, 2008
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:12 pm
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[URL="http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=681245"]http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=681245[/URL]

Any help here for you?

Regards,
Touch Base

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Different situation here. XP Pro SP2, 1 g memory, 1.7 ghz.

Speed has been fine until recently - getting as high as 11K b/s on
downloads. Basic operations are still OK, but after going from FireFox 2
to FireFox 3 and scurrying back as quickly as possible, I'm getting as low
as 1100 b/s or less. Coincidence?

I've gone through every cleanup process imaginable including registry.
I've always kept on top of viruses with AVG 8 Full in place now and others
applied occasionally (with no surprises).

Somebody PLEASE tell me where the hidden slowdown settings are!

JimL

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inkleput

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:43 pm
Post subject: RE: Slow XP
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My brain is apparently wired specifically to never grasp anything about
networking so the monitor would be useless in my hands.

The one thing I do grasp about networking: networking writers include
about 10% of essential information in their articles and documentation,
expecting you to already know the other 90%.

But whatever it did, the winsock reset thingy seems to have fixed things.
Thanks.

Andrew E. said:

> Download the "network monitor" for xp,its new version is v3.2,which was
> just released at microsoft/downloads..Also,when networking gets slow on
> most pcs,open cmd,type:netsh Winsock reset

>"inkleput.Remove@isp.com" wrote:

>> Different situation here. XP Pro SP2, 1 g memory, 1.7 ghz.
>>
>> Speed has been fine until recently - getting as high as 11K b/s on
>> downloads. Basic operations are still OK, but after going from FireFox 2
>> to FireFox 3 and scurrying back as quickly as possible, I'm getting as low
>> as 1100 b/s or less. Coincidence?
>>
>> I've gone through every cleanup process imaginable including registry.
>> I've always kept on top of viruses with AVG 8 Full in place now and others
>> applied occasionally (with no surprises).
>>
>> Somebody PLEASE tell me where the hidden slowdown settings are!
>>
>> JimL
>>
>> ---
>> Obama: Solid gold or solid fertilizer?
>>


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Daave

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:15 pm
Post subject: Re: Slow XP
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wrote in message

> Different situation here. XP Pro SP2, 1 g memory, 1.7 ghz.
>
> Speed has been fine until recently - getting as high as 11K b/s on
> downloads. Basic operations are still OK, but after going from
> FireFox 2
> to FireFox 3 and scurrying back as quickly as possible, I'm getting as
> low
> as 1100 b/s or less. Coincidence?
>
> I've gone through every cleanup process imaginable including registry.
> I've always kept on top of viruses with AVG 8 Full in place now and
> others
> applied occasionally (with no surprises).
>
> Somebody PLEASE tell me where the hidden slowdown settings are!

Your subject line states that XP is slow. Yet your message seems to
point to a Firefox problem. Other than Firefox's slowness, are you
having any other issues? If not, I would post in a Firefox forum or
newsgroup with as many details as possible.

You said this was recent. One thing you can try is running System
Restore to a point before you upgraded to Firefox 3. Also, have you
tried running Firefox in Safe Mode? See:

[URL="http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Safe+Mode"]http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Safe+Mode[/URL]

[URL="http://www.wikihow.com/Troubleshoot-Firefox"]http://www.wikihow.com/Troubleshoot-Firefox[/URL]

I also run AVG, but I have disabled Link Scanning and e-mail scanning. I
believe a number of people have reported performance issues with these
features.
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inkleput

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:10 pm
Post subject: Re: Slow XP
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>Your subject line states that XP is slow. Yet your message seems to
>point to a Firefox problem. Other than Firefox's slowness, are you
>having any other issues? If not, I would post in a Firefox forum or
>newsgroup with as many details as possible.

>You said this was recent. One thing you can try is running System
>Restore to a point before you upgraded to Firefox 3. Also, have you
>tried running Firefox in Safe Mode? See:

As it turns out, with the winsock reset fixing the problem, it was
apparently XP, per se. Altho I can make absolutely no actualy technical
comments about it I'm betting this is a networking issue within XP itself.

As for posting to a FireFox forum, that's the first thing I did. I did
learn from that. I learned that they REALLY don't like it if anyone makes
a complaint about any Mozilla product. You are expected to throw bouquets
and make obeisance or you probably won't get a useful answer. That is
MOST true of Thunderbird. It's a great sin to say anything against it,
altho in my opinion there is much that could be.

JimL

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inkleput

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:25 pm
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Attho I can't remember the name of the problem feature, it was not Link
Scanner, altho it was something much like it and in addition to it.
Before I messed around with FF 3 and screwed everything up I used FF 2.
Installing AVG 8 Full caused an addon to be added to the Addon list. I
removed it and fixed the problem - but Link Scanner was still running.

Of course if Link scanner is causing actual problems for some people, who
am I to say otherwise, just because it's OK for me.

"Tho I can't remember the details, the addon installed by AVG 8 Full is
written about at Mozilla or Mozilla Magazine.

I'm curious whether Link Scanner puts in those little green icons on
Google results like this addon did.


"Touch Base" wrote in message

>"Olórin" wrote in message
>
>>> Different situation here. XP Pro SP2, 1 g memory, 1.7 ghz.
>>>
>>> Speed has been fine until recently - getting as high as 11K b/s on
>>> downloads. Basic operations are still OK, but after going from FireFox 2
>>> to FireFox 3 and scurrying back as quickly as possible, I'm getting as
>>> low
>>> as 1100 b/s or less. Coincidence?
>>>
>>> I've gone through every cleanup process imaginable including registry.
>>> I've always kept on top of viruses with AVG 8 Full in place now and
>>> others
>>> applied occasionally (with no surprises).
>>>
>>> Somebody PLEASE tell me where the hidden slowdown settings are!
>>>
>>> JimL
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Obama: Solid gold or solid fertilizer?

>>Careful with those registry cleaners!

>So some say. I've used them for years and never had a problem. I suspect
>it would make a difference if the programmers were incompetent.

>>Is this only happening with Firefox, or with IE too?

>Hm, don't know. I never use !E except when XP forces it. And I may not
>even try it. I did the winsock reset doohicky suggested and it _appears_ to
>have put me back on track. The only problem now is that I will NEVER be
>able to remember where I stored that tip!

>>I found AVG*8* slowed me down - though not to the same extent you're
>>finding. Nor did I like the component of it that kept dashing off to sites
>>and giving them safety ticks in Google search results. I ditched it for
>>Avast & Avira on my home PCs.

>I had the AVG 8 slowdown problem. Since my memory is apparently bobbing
>around in Dante's Seventh Ring I don't remember exactly what the fix was,
>but it was an addon that AVG 8 installed that was checking out web sites
>some way or other. I recall that it put little green me.. oops, little
>green icons all up and down a Google hit page. Disabling the addon fixed
>it. But I don't even have it now, because my temporary excursion into FF 3
>trashed it. FF 3 seems to trash a LOT of things that stay trashed when you
>return to FF2.

>>[Prepares to be flamed] You might want to close AVG *completely* (check
>>system tray, services, & processes in Task Manager) and then browse around
>>/
>>download from a few *known safe* sites, to see if things have sped up. This
>>would, of course, be a temporary measure, and you should ensure virus
>>protection is reinstated at the earliest opportunity - preferably by
>>restarting your machine, to ensure that all components have started. Not
>>wanting to sound like I'm talking down to you, but a caveat I'd give
>>anyone:
>>if you don't appreciate the danger from viruses or are at all unsure of
>>your
>>ability to *safely* browse the web for a short period for this testing,
>>then
>>please DON'T DO IT! Others will doubtless berate me for suggesting this -
>>but it's what I would try if it were me. (Not that it sounds likely that
>>the
>>cause IS AVG, but this would test it.)

>No flame from here; I've had to do it before. But I would heavily
>underscore your caveat to be very careful about it. When I used the free
>version of AVG it didn't have a feature that checked incoming stuff (only
>checked after you already had it) and I got riddled with trojans during ONE
>SESSION on a bad site. Took me a week or more to clean it up.


>JimL

>---
>Obama: Solid gold or solid fertilizer?




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