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Karthik Balaguru

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Since: Feb 12, 2010
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:36 am
Post subject: Protecting the Windows using Linux
Archived from groups: comp>os>linux>setup, others (more info?)

Hi,
The internet connection is in Linux (Host OS).
I am just eager to know if i have Windows as a
guest OS on Host OS(Linux), is it less possible
for Windows to get infected by virus ?

If Windows crashes, is there a mechanism
to recover it from Host OS(Linux) ?
Also, is there any mechanism to debug windows
from linux ? Any ideas ?

I am planning to use Ubuntu as Host OS and
Windows Vista as Guest OS and either
Vmware or VirtualBox (Virtual machines).

Thx in advans,
Karthik Balaguru

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Bill Yanaire, ESQ

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Since: Feb 9, 2010
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:37 am
Post subject: Re: Protecting the Windows using Linux
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Karthik Balaguru" wrote in message

> Hi,
> The internet connection is in Linux (Host OS).
> I am just eager to know if i have Windows as a
> guest OS on Host OS(Linux), is it less possible
> for Windows to get infected by virus ?
>

No - Make sure you have a good antivirus program on your Windows OS.

> If Windows crashes, is there a mechanism
> to recover it from Host OS(Linux) ?
> Also, is there any mechanism to debug windows
> from linux ? Any ideas ?

It's best not to use Linux at all if you can help it.

>
> I am planning to use Ubuntu as Host OS and
> Windows Vista as Guest OS and either
> Vmware or VirtualBox (Virtual machines).
>
> Thx in advans,
> Karthik Balaguru

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Karthik Balaguru

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:50 am
Post subject: Re: Protecting the Windows using Linux
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Feb 13, 12:37 am, "Bill Yanaire, ESQ" wrote:
> "Karthik Balaguru" wrote in message
>

>
> > Hi,
> > The internet connection is in Linux (Host OS).
> > I am just eager to know if i have Windows as a
> > guest OS on Host OS(Linux), is it less possible
> > for Windows to get infected by virus ?
>
> No -

Great !

> Make sure you have a good antivirus program on your Windows OS.
>
> > If Windows crashes, is there a mechanism
> > to recover it from Host OS(Linux) ?
> > Also, is there any mechanism to debug windows
> > from linux ? Any ideas ?
>
> It's best not to use Linux at all if you can help it.
>
>

But, Why ?

I need few applications that run in linux and few
applications on windows. But, since windows
is more prone to virus , i am planning to have
internet connection on linux(Host OS).

>
>
>
> > I am planning to use Ubuntu as Host OS and
> > Windows Vista as Guest OS and either
> > Vmware or VirtualBox (Virtual machines).
>

Karthik Balaguru
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Karthik Balaguru

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:58 am
Post subject: Re: Protecting the Windows using Linux
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Feb 13, 12:37 am, "Bill Yanaire, ESQ" wrote:
> "Karthik Balaguru" wrote in message
>

>
> > Hi,
> > The internet connection is in Linux (Host OS).
> > I am just eager to know if i have Windows as a
> > guest OS on Host OS(Linux), is it less possible
> > for Windows to get infected by virus ?
>
> No - Make sure you have a good antivirus program on your Windows OS.

Do you mean to say that windows will get infected
even if it runs as a guest OS on linux OS ?
Strange !!

>
> > If Windows crashes, is there a mechanism
> > to recover it from Host OS(Linux) ?
> > Also, is there any mechanism to debug windows
> > from linux ? Any ideas ?
>
> It's best not to use Linux at all if you can help it.
>
>
>
>
>
> > I am planning to use Ubuntu as Host OS and
> > Windows Vista as Guest OS and either
> > Vmware or VirtualBox (Virtual machines).
>

Karthik Balaguru
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ToddAndMargo

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Since: Oct 17, 2008
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:59 am
Post subject: Re: Protecting the Windows using Linux
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On 02/12/2010 11:36 AM, Karthik Balaguru wrote:
> Hi,
> The internet connection is in Linux (Host OS).
> I am just eager to know if i have Windows as a
> guest OS on Host OS(Linux), is it less possible
> for Windows to get infected by virus ?

Yes. Same way as always. Surf with IE, etc..
To be safe, do no eMail or surfing from a
Windows guest. Firefox and Thunderbird work
very well in Linux. And, the guest will need
a firewall. you can use iptables in Linux, if
you pass traffic through Linux before it gets to
your guest (bridge networking). Remember
you can create a virtual network card (eth0.5) to
force your internet traffic through iptables.

>
> If Windows crashes, is there a mechanism
> to recover it from Host OS(Linux) ?
> Also, is there any mechanism to debug windows
> from linux ? Any ideas ?

Yes. Your guest OS is just a large file to your
host OS. Backup your guest image. Or, if using
Virtual Box, backup your entire ~/.virtualbox
directory. Keep lots of copies and restore
to a previous date.

> I am planning to use Ubuntu as Host OS and
> Windows Vista as Guest OS and either
> Vmware or VirtualBox (Virtual machines).

I use Virtual Box with CenOS as host.
Guest: Xp, Vista, W7, others.

Vista is horriale as a guest. Xp and W7 as
well behaved.

>
> Thx in advans,
> Karthik Balaguru
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Karthik Balaguru

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:59 am
Post subject: Re: Protecting the Windows using Linux
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Feb 13, 12:50 am, Karthik Balaguru wrote:
>
> > "Karthik Balaguru" wrote in message
>
>
>
> > > Hi,
> > > The internet connection is in Linux (Host OS).
> > > I am just eager to know if i have Windows as a
> > > guest OS on Host OS(Linux), is it less possible
> > > for Windows to get infected by virus ?
>
> > No -
>
> Great !
>

In one of my earlier replies,
It should not be 'Great !'. It should be 'Strange ! ?'

> > Make sure you have a good antivirus program on your Windows OS.
>
> > > If Windows crashes, is there a mechanism
> > > to recover it from Host OS(Linux) ?
> > > Also, is there any mechanism to debug windows
> > > from linux ? Any ideas ?
>
> > It's best not to use Linux at all if you can help it.
>
> But, Why ?
>
> I need few applications that run in linux and few
> applications on windows. But, since windows
> is more prone to virus , i am planning to have
> internet connection on linux(Host OS).
>
>
>
> > > I am planning to use Ubuntu as Host OS and
> > > Windows Vista as Guest OS and either
> > > Vmware or VirtualBox (Virtual machines).
>

Karthik Balaguru
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M0she_

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Protecting the Windows using Linux
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:36:18 -0800 (PST), Karthik Balaguru wrote:

> Hi,
> The internet connection is in Linux (Host OS).
> I am just eager to know if i have Windows as a
> guest OS on Host OS(Linux), is it less possible
> for Windows to get infected by virus ?
>
> If Windows crashes, is there a mechanism
> to recover it from Host OS(Linux) ?
> Also, is there any mechanism to debug windows
> from linux ? Any ideas ?
>
> I am planning to use Ubuntu as Host OS and
> Windows Vista as Guest OS and either
> Vmware or VirtualBox (Virtual machines).
>
> Thx in advans,
> Karthik Balaguru

Do you have a lot of free time on your hands?
If so, Linux may be just the thing for you!!
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David W. Hodgins

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Protecting the Windows using Linux
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:36:18 -0500, Karthik Balaguru wrote:

> The internet connection is in Linux (Host OS).
> I am just eager to know if i have Windows as a
> guest OS on Host OS(Linux), is it less possible
> for Windows to get infected by virus ?

Using VirtualBox, I have xp running as a guest under
Mandriva linux, with the network setup as a bridged
adapter on eth0.

The guest gets it's own ip address, and the packets
going to/from the guest, do not pass through the
linux firewall.

From the point of view of the guest os, it's as if it
had it's own real network interface card, so it's just
as susceptible to network attacks, as it would be if
running on native hardware.

As with any m$ software, make sure it's protected by
a properly configured router.

> If Windows crashes, is there a mechanism
> to recover it from Host OS(Linux) ?

It works the same as it would, when running on native
hardware. You change the settings to boot from the
windows install cd (or an iso image of one), and then
repair the installation.

If you have enough disk space, you can make backup
copies of the virtual hard drive, that you can then
use to restore an old copy, similar to making a ghost
backup, when using native hardware.

> Also, is there any mechanism to debug windows
> from linux ? Any ideas ?

Not really. You can tell from the host whether it's
chewing up i/o, cpu, etc, but that's about it.

> I am planning to use Ubuntu as Host OS and
> Windows Vista as Guest OS and either
> Vmware or VirtualBox (Virtual machines).

I've found VirtualBox intuitive to setup, and easy
to use. For proper usb support, you should use the
version downloaded directly from [URL="http://www.virtualbox.org"]www.virtualbox.org[/URL],
rather then distribution provided Open Source
Edition packages.

Regards, Dave Hodgins
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ray

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Since: Dec 5, 2008
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Protecting the Windows using Linux
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:58:31 -0800, Karthik Balaguru wrote:

> On Feb 13, 12:37 am, "Bill Yanaire, ESQ" wrote:
>> "Karthik Balaguru" wrote in message
>>
>>

>>
>> > Hi,
>> > The internet connection is in Linux (Host OS). I am just eager to
>> > know if i have Windows as a guest OS on Host OS(Linux), is it less
>> > possible for Windows to get infected by virus ?
>>
>> No - Make sure you have a good antivirus program on your Windows OS.
>
> Do you mean to say that windows will get infected even if it runs as a
> guest OS on linux OS ? Strange !!
>
>
>> > If Windows crashes, is there a mechanism to recover it from Host
>> > OS(Linux) ?
>> > Also, is there any mechanism to debug windows from linux ? Any ideas
>> > ?
>>
>> It's best not to use Linux at all if you can help it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > I am planning to use Ubuntu as Host OS and Windows Vista as Guest OS
>> > and either
>> > Vmware or VirtualBox (Virtual machines).
>>
>>
> Karthik Balaguru

Main problem here is that bill knows absolutely nothing about Linux. He's
simply one of the MS shills who badmouth Linux at every opportunity.
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ray

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Protecting the Windows using Linux
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:16:28 -0800, Frank wrote:

> ray wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:58:31 -0800, Karthik Balaguru wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 13, 12:37 am, "Bill Yanaire, ESQ" wrote:
>>>> "Karthik Balaguru" wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>
>>

>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> The internet connection is in Linux (Host OS). I am just eager to
>>>>> know if i have Windows as a guest OS on Host OS(Linux), is it less
>>>>> possible for Windows to get infected by virus ?
>>>> No - Make sure you have a good antivirus program on your Windows OS.
>>> Do you mean to say that windows will get infected even if it runs as a
>>> guest OS on linux OS ? Strange !!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> If Windows crashes, is there a mechanism to recover it from Host
>>>>> OS(Linux) ?
>>>>> Also, is there any mechanism to debug windows from linux ? Any ideas
>>>>> ?
>>>> It's best not to use Linux at all if you can help it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am planning to use Ubuntu as Host OS and Windows Vista as Guest OS
>>>>> and either
>>>>> Vmware or VirtualBox (Virtual machines).
>>>>
>>> Karthik Balaguru
>>
>> Main problem here is that bill knows absolutely nothing about Linux.
>> He's simply one of the MS shills who badmouth Linux at every
>> opportunity.
>
> Main problem here is that ray knows absolutely nothing about Windows.
> He's simply one of the linux shills who badmouth Windows at every
> opportunity.

Ah yes, should have mentioned frankie is another one - they're refugees
from a couple of the MS groups - always pumping FUD about Linux.
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Frank

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:25 pm
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ray wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:58:31 -0800, Karthik Balaguru wrote:
>
>> On Feb 13, 12:37 am, "Bill Yanaire, ESQ" wrote:
>>> "Karthik Balaguru" wrote in message
>>>
>>>

>>>> Hi,
>>>> The internet connection is in Linux (Host OS). I am just eager to
>>>> know if i have Windows as a guest OS on Host OS(Linux), is it less
>>>> possible for Windows to get infected by virus ?
>>> No - Make sure you have a good antivirus program on your Windows OS.
>> Do you mean to say that windows will get infected even if it runs as a
>> guest OS on linux OS ? Strange !!
>>
>>
>>>> If Windows crashes, is there a mechanism to recover it from Host
>>>> OS(Linux) ?
>>>> Also, is there any mechanism to debug windows from linux ? Any ideas
>>>> ?
>>> It's best not to use Linux at all if you can help it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am planning to use Ubuntu as Host OS and Windows Vista as Guest OS
>>>> and either
>>>> Vmware or VirtualBox (Virtual machines).
>>>
>> Karthik Balaguru
>
> Main problem here is that bill knows absolutely nothing about Linux. He's
> simply one of the MS shills who badmouth Linux at every opportunity.

Main problem here is that ray knows absolutely nothing about Windows.
He's simply one of the linux shills who badmouth Windows at every
opportunity.
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Frank

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Protecting the Windows using Linux
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ray wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:16:28 -0800, Frank wrote:
>
>> ray wrote:
>>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:58:31 -0800, Karthik Balaguru wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 13, 12:37 am, "Bill Yanaire, ESQ" wrote:
>>>>> "Karthik Balaguru" wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>

>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> The internet connection is in Linux (Host OS). I am just eager to
>>>>>> know if i have Windows as a guest OS on Host OS(Linux), is it less
>>>>>> possible for Windows to get infected by virus ?
>>>>> No - Make sure you have a good antivirus program on your Windows OS.
>>>> Do you mean to say that windows will get infected even if it runs as a
>>>> guest OS on linux OS ? Strange !!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> If Windows crashes, is there a mechanism to recover it from Host
>>>>>> OS(Linux) ?
>>>>>> Also, is there any mechanism to debug windows from linux ? Any ideas
>>>>>> ?
>>>>> It's best not to use Linux at all if you can help it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am planning to use Ubuntu as Host OS and Windows Vista as Guest OS
>>>>>> and either
>>>>>> Vmware or VirtualBox (Virtual machines).
>>>> Karthik Balaguru
>>> Main problem here is that bill knows absolutely nothing about Linux.
>>> He's simply one of the MS shills who badmouth Linux at every
>>> opportunity.
>> Main problem here is that ray knows absolutely nothing about Windows.
>> He's simply one of the linux shills who badmouth Windows at every
>> opportunity.
>
> Ah yes, should have mentioned frankie is another one - they're refugees
> from a couple of the MS groups - always pumping FUD about Linux.
>
You've become quite the lying POS linturd loser...ray...the snake!
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The Natural Philosopher

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:25 pm
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Karthik Balaguru wrote:
> Hi,
> The internet connection is in Linux (Host OS).
> I am just eager to know if i have Windows as a
> guest OS on Host OS(Linux), is it less possible
> for Windows to get infected by virus ?
>
No, but a snapshot restore will get you back up a lot quicker..


> If Windows crashes, is there a mechanism
> to recover it from Host OS(Linux) ?
Not really. If it crashes it crashes. It jhas to restart someohow.

> Also, is there any mechanism to debug windows
> from linux ? Any ideas ?
>
Pass.

> I am planning to use Ubuntu as Host OS and
> Windows Vista as Guest OS and either
> Vmware or VirtualBox (Virtual machines).
>
good idea. I just finished a Virtual box installation. Faster than
VMware by far, though not quite so pretty at the edges.


> Thx in advans,
> Karthik Balaguru
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The Natural Philosopher

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:25 pm
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Karthik Balaguru wrote:
> On Feb 13, 12:37 am, "Bill Yanaire, ESQ" wrote:
>> "Karthik Balaguru" wrote in message
>>
>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> The internet connection is in Linux (Host OS).
>>> I am just eager to know if i have Windows as a
>>> guest OS on Host OS(Linux), is it less possible
>>> for Windows to get infected by virus ?
>> No - Make sure you have a good antivirus program on your Windows OS.
>
> Do you mean to say that windows will get infected
> even if it runs as a guest OS on linux OS ?
> Strange !!

Of course. It's effectively a standalone machine. Running on some
curious hardware..
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The Natural Philosopher

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:25 pm
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Frank wrote:
> one of the linux shills

Shilling for who precisely?

who after all, will pay him to do that?
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