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Since: Nov 24, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:06 am
Post subject: Files that cannot be defragged
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsxp>general (more info?)
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Yesterday (Wednesday 25 Nov 09) as part of regular maintenance, I defraged my
computer and received an unusual inclusion in the end report "Files that
cannot be defragmented." Below is the list:
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
8 31 KB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgui.log
25 174 KB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgsched.log
10 325 KB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgns.log
84 655 KB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgcore.log
39 653 KB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgwd.log
31 949 KB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgrs.log
I don't ever remember seeing this in the defragging end report before. Just
prior to defragging, an automatic download came in from Microsoft. Did these
files that cannot be defragged come in from the latest Microsoft download?
Would appreciate learning what is occuring. |
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Since: Sep 4, 2009
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:23 pm
Post subject: Re: Files that cannot be defragged
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Since: Sep 27, 2008
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Files that cannot be defragged
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George wrote:
> Yesterday (Wednesday 25 Nov 09) as part of regular maintenance, I defraged my
> computer and received an unusual inclusion in the end report "Files that
> cannot be defragmented." Below is the list:
>
> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> 8 31 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgui.log
> 25 174 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgsched.log
> 10 325 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgns.log
> 84 655 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgcore.log
> 39 653 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgwd.log
> 31 949 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgrs.log
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> I don't ever remember seeing this in the defragging end report before. Just
> prior to defragging, an automatic download came in from Microsoft. Did these
> files that cannot be defragged come in from the latest Microsoft download?
>
> Would appreciate learning what is occuring.
You're using AVG. Those files are inuse and probably have a lock on them. >> Stay informed about: Files that cannot be defragged |
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Since: Nov 26, 2009
Posts: 3
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:43 pm
Post subject: Re: Files that cannot be defragged
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to do a defrag it is best to do just before turning off
stop all programs and any sitting on quick launch area around clock like avg
possibly do a file cleanup to dump temp files
after defrag reboot or shutdown
George wrote:
> Yesterday (Wednesday 25 Nov 09) as part of regular maintenance, I defraged my
> computer and received an unusual inclusion in the end report "Files that
> cannot be defragmented." Below is the list:
>
> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> 8 31 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgui.log
> 25 174 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgsched.log
> 10 325 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgns.log
> 84 655 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgcore.log
> 39 653 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgwd.log
> 31 949 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgrs.log
>
> I don't ever remember seeing this in the defragging end report before. Just
> prior to defragging, an automatic download came in from Microsoft. Did these
> files that cannot be defragged come in from the latest Microsoft download?
>
> Would appreciate learning what is occuring.
>
> >> Stay informed about: Files that cannot be defragged |
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Since: Jan 20, 2009
Posts: 48
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:15 am
Post subject: Re: Files that cannot be defragged
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Nov 26, 1:06 pm, George wrote:
> Yesterday (Wednesday 25 Nov 09) as part of regular maintenance, I defraged my
> computer and received an unusual inclusion in the end report "Files that
> cannot be defragmented." Below is the list:
>
> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> 8 31 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgui.log
> 25 174 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgsched.log
> 10 325 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgns.log
> 84 655 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgcore.log
> 39 653 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgwd.log
> 31 949 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgrs.log
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> I don't ever remember seeing this in the defragging end report before. Just
> prior to defragging, an automatic download came in from Microsoft. Did these
> files that cannot be defragged come in from the latest Microsoft download?
>
> Would appreciate learning what is occuring.
Reading the AVG forums, they seem to acknowledge this extra new
feature in their 9.0 version, but your path statements indicate avg8,
but maybe some AVG upgrade has occurred lately on your system?
Did it used to work before any AVG upgrade?
Maybe check out their forums where there is some other recent activity
that sounds like yours:
[URL="http://forums.avg.com/ww-en/avg-free-forum"]http://forums.avg.com/ww-en/avg-free-forum[/URL]
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Since: Dec 6, 2008
Posts: 47
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:55 am
Post subject: Re: Files that cannot be defragged
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Since: Nov 24, 2008
Posts: 4
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:55 am
Post subject: Re: Files that cannot be defragged
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Many thanks to all of you who commented on my post. Special gratitude for
tracing the source to the AVG program - it seems obvious now just by looking
at the file name. Have not had to disable AVG before but will do so now.
Recently I downloaded an upgrade from AVG8 to AVG9 - that change probably
contributes to the files that won't defrag...
My routine for defragging (done about once every two weeks just before
shutting down) has been to religiously run Disc Cleanup and then the Disc
Defrag program.
"Richard Urban" wrote:
> In-use files can not be defragmented. It would be a never ending process.
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> --
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> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience & Security
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> "George" wrote in message
>
> > Yesterday (Wednesday 25 Nov 09) as part of regular maintenance, I defraged
> > my
> > computer and received an unusual inclusion in the end report "Files that
> > cannot be defragmented." Below is the list:
> >
> > Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> > 8 31 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> > Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgui.log
> > 25 174 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> > Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgsched.log
> > 10 325 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> > Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgns.log
> > 84 655 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> > Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgcore.log
> > 39 653 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> > Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgwd.log
> > 31 949 KB \Documents and Settings\All
> > Users\Application Data\avg8\Log\avgrs.log
> >
> > I don't ever remember seeing this in the defragging end report before.
> > Just
> > prior to defragging, an automatic download came in from Microsoft. Did
> > these
> > files that cannot be defragged come in from the latest Microsoft download?
> >
> > Would appreciate learning what is occuring.
> >
> >
>
> .
> >> Stay informed about: Files that cannot be defragged |
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Since: Dec 7, 2008
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Files that cannot be defragged
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Since: Dec 2, 2008
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Files that cannot be defragged
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George wrote:
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> My routine for defragging (done about once every two weeks just before
> shutting down) has been to religiously run Disc Cleanup and then the
> Disc Defrag program.
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You might ask yourself "why?" Defragging an NTFS disk has no detectable
effect on efficiency. >> Stay informed about: Files that cannot be defragged |
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Since: Jan 20, 2009
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:14 am
Post subject: Re: Files that cannot be defragged
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On Nov 27, 9:41 pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
> George wrote:
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> > My routine for defragging (done about once every two weeks just before
> > shutting down) has been to religiously run Disc Cleanup and then the
> > Disc Defrag program.
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> You might ask yourself "why?" Defragging an NTFS disk has no detectable
> effect on efficiency.
Would you agree or disagree with the following statements:
The NTFS file system is not immune to fragmentation but it is designed
to prevent fragmentation.
The NTFS file system is designed to find file fragments more
efficiently, but no matter what the file system, any excess disk head
motion will result in a loss of system performance. >> Stay informed about: Files that cannot be defragged |
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