AVG has disappeared!

"Gordon Biggar" wrote in message

>I am running a Vista 64-bit platform with a VMware guest, using Vista
>32-bit. Although I have Windows Defender running in the guest system, I
>have not had any anti-virus software (I use McAfee on the host system).
>Last night, I downloaded and installed the AVG-free anti-virus software for
>the guest system. It was working as intended when I shut down the
>computer.
>
> This morning, in booting to the guest system, there is no AVG software in
> sight. The downloadable program from AVG is not even found in the
> Downloads folder! Windows Defender is still operable, and telling me that
> I do not have an anti-virus program installed.
>
> I wish I could make my IRS returns disappear like that. Does anyone have
> a clue as to what transpired?
>
> Gordon Biggar
> Houston, Texas



I think there's a setting in VMWare somewhere to remove any changes made to
the system, once you shut it down. You've perhaps got that option checked..
 >> Stay informed about: AVG has disappeared! 

I reloaded AVG last night; shut the guest system down and re-booted several
times without a problem. And, the software is still there this am. All
very strange. I will check on the VMware option, however.

How does Windows Defender stack up in terms of security protection? I
thought that I had read on this forum that AVG was more than ample for
anti-virus, but it was some time ago, and it may not have been an MVP.
McAfee came with the Dell, so I am awaiting its expiration. I am not
familiar with Microsoft Security Essentials, but will check into it.

Thanks for the responses.

Gordon


"Gordon Biggar" wrote in message

> I am running a Vista 64-bit platform with a VMware guest, using Vista
> 32-bit. Although I have Windows Defender running in the guest system, I
> have not had any anti-virus software (I use McAfee on the host system).
> Last night, I downloaded and installed the AVG-free anti-virus software
> for the guest system. It was working as intended when I shut down the
> computer.
>
> This morning, in booting to the guest system, there is no AVG software in
> sight. The downloadable program from AVG is not even found in the
> Downloads folder! Windows Defender is still operable, and telling me that
> I do not have an anti-virus program installed.
>
> I wish I could make my IRS returns disappear like that. Does anyone have
> a clue as to what transpired?
>
> Gordon Biggar
> Houston, Texas
 >> Stay informed about: AVG has disappeared! 

AVG 9 will disable Windows Defender. Not much you can do about according to AVG.

"Gordon Biggar" wrote in message

>I reloaded AVG last night; shut the guest system down and re-booted several times without a
>problem. And, the software is still there this am. All very strange. I will check on the VMware
>option, however.
>
> How does Windows Defender stack up in terms of security protection? I thought that I had read on
> this forum that AVG was more than ample for anti-virus, but it was some time ago, and it may not
> have been an MVP. McAfee came with the Dell, so I am awaiting its expiration. I am not familiar
> with Microsoft Security Essentials, but will check into it.
>
> Thanks for the responses.
>
> Gordon
>
>
> "Gordon Biggar" wrote in message
>
>> I am running a Vista 64-bit platform with a VMware guest, using Vista 32-bit. Although I have
>> Windows Defender running in the guest system, I have not had any anti-virus software (I use
>> McAfee on the host system). Last night, I downloaded and installed the AVG-free anti-virus
>> software for the guest system. It was working as intended when I shut down the computer.
>>
>> This morning, in booting to the guest system, there is no AVG software in sight. The
>> downloadable program from AVG is not even found in the Downloads folder! Windows Defender is
>> still operable, and telling me that I do not have an anti-virus program installed.
>>
>> I wish I could make my IRS returns disappear like that. Does anyone have a clue as to what
>> transpired?
>>
>> Gordon Biggar
>> Houston, Texas
>
 >> Stay informed about: AVG has disappeared! 

Perhaps maybe the paid version, but not the free version. I currently
have running; Spywareblaster, Spybot S&D, AVG 9.0 Free, Malewarebytes
and Windows defender with no conflicts whats so ever. And every once in
a while I will run ESET Online. Been doing it for quite awhile now.
 >> Stay informed about: AVG has disappeared! 

On Feb 25, 2:33 pm, "Gordon Biggar" wrote:
> I reloaded AVG last night; shut the guest system down and re-booted several
> times without a problem.  And, the software is still there this am.  All
> very strange.  I will check on the VMware option, however.
>
> How does Windows Defender stack up in terms of security protection?  I
> thought that I had read on this forum that AVG was more than ample for
> anti-virus, but it was some time ago, and it may not have been an MVP.
> McAfee came with the Dell, so I am awaiting its expiration.  I am not
> familiar with Microsoft Security Essentials, but will check into it.
>
> Thanks for the responses.
>
> Gordon
>
> "Gordon Biggar" wrote in message
>
>
>
> > I am running a Vista 64-bit platform with a VMware guest, using Vista
> > 32-bit.  Although I have Windows Defender running in the guest system, I
> > have not had any anti-virus software (I use McAfee on the host system).
> > Last night, I downloaded and installed the AVG-free anti-virus software
> > for the guest system.  It was working as intended when I shut down the
> > computer.
>
> > This morning, in booting to the guest system, there is no AVG software in
> > sight.  The downloadable program from AVG is not even found in the
> > Downloads folder!  Windows Defender is still operable, and telling me that
> > I do not have an anti-virus program installed.
>
> > I wish I could make my IRS returns disappear like that.  Does anyone have
> > a clue as to what transpired?
>
> > Gordon Biggar
> > Houston, Texas

MS Defender will only detect and remove a "limited" number of
"malwares." It is not a complete AV or anti-malware utility. It is
not that good and most "respectable" AV programs will turn it off.
 >> Stay informed about: AVG has disappeared! 

My point was in response to the previous statement and to advise that
AVG does not turn off Defender automatically. While the question was
asked about how good AVG was, I made no reply. Since we are on the
subject I will state that majority of informed users will discard
McAfee. EOS
 >> Stay informed about: AVG has disappeared! 

Appreciate your thoughts. Since the McAfee that was packaged with my laptop
will expire soon, do you have a strong recommendation on a replacement.

GB



"cwl7454" wrote in message

>
> My point was in response to the previous statement and to advise that
> AVG does not turn off Defender automatically. While the question was
> asked about how good AVG was, I made no reply. Since we are on the
> subject I will state that majority of informed users will discard
> McAfee. EOS
>
>
> --
> cwl7454
 >> Stay informed about: AVG has disappeared! 

Gordon. Microsoft Security Essentials does the trick. Un-intrusive and has
caught everything that's been thrown at it. (I tested it thoroughly)
[URL="http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/"]http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/[/URL]
 >> Stay informed about: AVG has disappeared! 

Sir Michael --

Now that's a strong rec! Appreciate the link, too. Since I've been using
AVG in my guest environment, I will go ahead and install it there, while I
await the expiration of my McAfee subscription that is being used on the
host.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Gordon

"Michael" wrote in message

> Gordon. Microsoft Security Essentials does the trick. Un-intrusive and
> has caught everything that's been thrown at it. (I tested it thoroughly)
> [URL="http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/"]http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/[/URL]
> --
>
>
> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
>
>
> "Gordon Biggar" wrote in message
>
>> Appreciate your thoughts. Since the McAfee that was packaged with my
>> laptop
>> will expire soon, do you have a strong recommendation on a replacement.
>>
>> GB
>>
>>
>>
>> "cwl7454" wrote in message
>
>>>
>>> My point was in response to the previous statement and to advise that
>>> AVG does not turn off Defender automatically. While the question was
>>> asked about how good AVG was, I made no reply. Since we are on the
>>> subject I will state that majority of informed users will discard
>>> McAfee. EOS
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> cwl7454
>>
 >> Stay informed about: AVG has disappeared! 

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:17:48 -0500, "Gordon Biggar"
wrote:

> Sir Michael --
>
> Now that's a strong rec! Appreciate the link, too. Since I've been using
> AVG in my guest environment, I will go ahead and install it there, while I
> await the expiration of my McAfee subscription that is being used on the
> host.


My view is somewhat different from his. Here's my view:

1. McAfee is a very poor product. Don't wait to dump it, but do it
immediately, and replace it with a better anti-virus product *now*.

2. If you are willing to spend money for a better anti-virus program,
get eSet NOD32. If you want freeware, get either Avira or Avast.



> "Michael" wrote in message

> > Gordon. Microsoft Security Essentials does the trick. Un-intrusive and
> > has caught everything that's been thrown at it. (I tested it thoroughly)
> > [URL="http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/"]http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/[/URL]
> > --
> >
> >
> > "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
> > If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
> >
> >
> > "Gordon Biggar" wrote in message
> >
> >> Appreciate your thoughts. Since the McAfee that was packaged with my
> >> laptop
> >> will expire soon, do you have a strong recommendation on a replacement.
> >>
> >> GB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "cwl7454" wrote in message
> >
> >>>
> >>> My point was in response to the previous statement and to advise that
> >>> AVG does not turn off Defender automatically. While the question was
> >>> asked about how good AVG was, I made no reply. Since we are on the
> >>> subject I will state that majority of informed users will discard
> >>> McAfee. EOS
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> cwl7454
> >>
 >> Stay informed about: AVG has disappeared! 

Just make sure you use CrapAfee's uninstall program before you give MSE a
try.

http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe

--


"Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."


"Gordon Biggar" wrote in message
news:O#P20kIuKHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Sir Michael --
>
> Now that's a strong rec! Appreciate the link, too. Since I've been using
> AVG in my guest environment, I will go ahead and install it there, while I
> await the expiration of my McAfee subscription that is being used on the
> host.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to respond.
>
> Gordon
>
> "Michael" wrote in message
> news:#lJiVgIuKHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Gordon. Microsoft Security Essentials does the trick. Un-intrusive and
>> has caught everything that's been thrown at it. (I tested it thoroughly)
>> http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/
>> --
>>
>>
>> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
>>
>>
>> "Gordon Biggar" wrote in message
>>
>>> Appreciate your thoughts. Since the McAfee that was packaged with my
>>> laptop
>>> will expire soon, do you have a strong recommendation on a replacement.
>>>
>>> GB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "cwl7454" wrote in message
>>>
>>>>
>>>> My point was in response to the previous statement and to advise that
>>>> AVG does not turn off Defender automatically. While the question was
>>>> asked about how good AVG was, I made no reply. Since we are on the
>>>> subject I will state that majority of informed users will discard
>>>> McAfee. EOS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> cwl7454
>>>
 >> Stay informed about: AVG has disappeared! 

Sir Kenneth --

Now you've got me! I actually have Computer Associates on an older desktop.
It was recommended to me years ago by an MVP on the Windows 2000 Forum when
I was running Windows 2000 (and the software was free then, believe it or
not). When the company went to a sales-only service, I stuck with it. I do
not have the technical expertise, however, to tell how it contrasts with its
competitors.

I am not familiar with any of the three recommendations that you put forth
(but, this is not my field). Can you contrast then briefly with the
Microsoft Security Essentials. Or, maybe I'm better off sticking with CA,
and replacing my McAfee with it?

Appreciate your inputs, regardless.

Gordon




"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message

> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:17:48 -0500, "Gordon Biggar"
> wrote:
>
>> Sir Michael --
>>
>> Now that's a strong rec! Appreciate the link, too. Since I've been
>> using
>> AVG in my guest environment, I will go ahead and install it there, while
>> I
>> await the expiration of my McAfee subscription that is being used on the
>> host.
>
>
> My view is somewhat different from his. Here's my view:
>
> 1. McAfee is a very poor product. Don't wait to dump it, but do it
> immediately, and replace it with a better anti-virus product *now*.
>
> 2. If you are willing to spend money for a better anti-virus program,
> get eSet NOD32. If you want freeware, get either Avira or Avast.
>
>
>
>> "Michael" wrote in message
>
>> > Gordon. Microsoft Security Essentials does the trick. Un-intrusive
>> > and
>> > has caught everything that's been thrown at it. (I tested it
>> > thoroughly)
>> > [URL="http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/"]http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/[/URL]
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> > "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>> > If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
>> >
>> >
>> > "Gordon Biggar" wrote in message
>> >
>> >> Appreciate your thoughts. Since the McAfee that was packaged with my
>> >> laptop
>> >> will expire soon, do you have a strong recommendation on a
>> >> replacement.
>> >>
>> >> GB
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "cwl7454" wrote in message
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> My point was in response to the previous statement and to advise that
>> >>> AVG does not turn off Defender automatically. While the question was
>> >>> asked about how good AVG was, I made no reply. Since we are on the
>> >>> subject I will state that majority of informed users will discard
>> >>> McAfee. EOS
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> cwl7454
>> >>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 >> Stay informed about: AVG has disappeared! 

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:40:26 -0500, "Gordon Biggar"
wrote:

> Sir Kenneth --
>
> Now you've got me! I actually have Computer Associates on an older desktop.
> It was recommended to me years ago by an MVP on the Windows 2000 Forum when


Not all MVPs have the same set of opinions. We are all different.



> I was running Windows 2000 (and the software was free then, believe it or
> not). When the company went to a sales-only service, I stuck with it. I do
> not have the technical expertise, however, to tell how it contrasts with its
> competitors.
>
> I am not familiar with any of the three recommendations that you put forth
> (but, this is not my field). Can you contrast then briefly with the
> Microsoft Security Essentials.


I have no personal experience with Microsoft Security Essentials, but
I've heard good things about it from others I respect. Nevertheless, I
don't think it's the equal of NOD32, Avira, or Avast. So although I
don't think MSE is a terrible choice, I believe that NOD32, Avira, or
Avast would be a better choice.


> Or, maybe I'm better off sticking with CA,
> and replacing my McAfee with it?


My personal view is not to use CA. If it's better than McAfee, I don't
think it's much better.


>
> Appreciate your inputs, regardless.


You're welcome. Glad to help.



> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message

> > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:17:48 -0500, "Gordon Biggar"
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Sir Michael --
> >>
> >> Now that's a strong rec! Appreciate the link, too. Since I've been
> >> using
> >> AVG in my guest environment, I will go ahead and install it there, while
> >> I
> >> await the expiration of my McAfee subscription that is being used on the
> >> host.
> >
> >
> > My view is somewhat different from his. Here's my view:
> >
> > 1. McAfee is a very poor product. Don't wait to dump it, but do it
> > immediately, and replace it with a better anti-virus product *now*.
> >
> > 2. If you are willing to spend money for a better anti-virus program,
> > get eSet NOD32. If you want freeware, get either Avira or Avast.
> >
> >
> >
> >> "Michael" wrote in message
> >
> >> > Gordon. Microsoft Security Essentials does the trick. Un-intrusive
> >> > and
> >> > has caught everything that's been thrown at it. (I tested it
> >> > thoroughly)
> >> > [URL="http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/"]http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/[/URL]
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
> >> > If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Gordon Biggar" wrote in message
> >> >
> >> >> Appreciate your thoughts. Since the McAfee that was packaged with my
> >> >> laptop
> >> >> will expire soon, do you have a strong recommendation on a
> >> >> replacement.
> >> >>
> >> >> GB
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "cwl7454" wrote in message
> >> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>> My point was in response to the previous statement and to advise that
> >> >>> AVG does not turn off Defender automatically. While the question was
> >> >>> asked about how good AVG was, I made no reply. Since we are on the
> >> >>> subject I will state that majority of informed users will discard
> >> >>> McAfee. EOS
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> cwl7454
> >> >>
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 >> Stay informed about: AVG has disappeared!